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MARIA BARTIROMO, FOX news ANCHOR: first rate Sunday morning, everyone. thank you for becoming a member of us. Welcome to "Sunday Morning Futures." i am Maria Bartiromo.
Crime, coronavirus and China dominating the headlines this morning, as Congress scrambles to hammer out the subsequent federal stimulus package earlier than millions of american citizens lose their added unemployment advantages on the end of the month, all this in opposition t the backdrop of the 2020 election now simply 99 days away.
President Trump canceling all GOP pursuits in Jacksonville, whereas asserting himself because the legislations and order candidate, dispatching officers to Portland, as well as extra drive in Seattle and Chicago.
just ahead, acting Secretary of place of birth protection Chad Wolf is right here to tell us what the federal executive is doing to restore safety to our nation's cities, as protesters goal his own home.
This as newly declassified files show the FBI used counterintelligence briefings as a canopy-as much as examine the Trump campaign. Senator Lindsey Graham is here with the very newest on his Russia deep dive, as he prepares to grill former attorney everyday -- assistant general Sally Yates before the committee on Wednesday.
We're joined this morning by using Congressman Devin Nunes with greater breaking information on the Steele file. he'll show it appropriate here for the very first time coming up.
And within the middle of all of this, Beijing busted this week for spying on U.S. soil, after three chinese language nationals have been arrested trying to steal medical research, a priority you heard here from Senator Tom Cotton, flagging this on this program in April.
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SEN. TOM COTTON (R-AR): I actually have little doubt that the chinese intelligence services are actively trying to steal america's highbrow property because it pertains to the virus that they unleashed on the world, as a result of, of course, they need to be the nation that claims credit for finding those drugs or discovering a vaccine, after which use it as leverage towards the relaxation of the world.
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BARTIROMO: world investor Ray Dalio is back with us nowadays with his assessment of the China danger and why it hasn't stopped him and others from investing there.
All that and much more, as we seem forward these days on "Sunday Morning Futures."
but, first, new revelations this week about Christopher Steele and his bogus dossier paid for through Hillary Clinton's crusade and the Democratic country wide Committee.
Newly declassified files featuring even more proof that the FBI knew that there was no collusion as early as January of 2017, but they saved investigating Trump and his crusade anyway and renewing warrants to achieve this.
This simply the latest domino to fall, with greater bombshell files anticipated any day now.
White condo Chief of personnel Mark Meadows breaking that information correct right here with us appropriate right here closing week.
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MARK MEADOWS, WHITE condo CHIEF OF workforce: We know that they now not handiest knew that there wasn't a case, but they continued to examine and spy -- and, yes, i take advantage of the notice secret agent -- on Trump campaign officers, and, basically, even doing things when this president changed into sworn in, and after that, and doing it in an inappropriate manner.
you might be going to peer a few other documents come out within the coming days so that it will imply that, no longer best became the crusade spied on, however the FBI didn't act as it should be as they had been investigating.
or not it's all starting to come unravel -- to unravel. and i let you know, it's time that people go to detention center and americans are indicted.
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BARTIROMO: becoming a member of me right now to talk extra about that's Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham.
Mr. Chairman, or not it's awesome to have you as soon as once again. thank you so an awful lot for being right here.
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): thanks.
BARTIROMO: a large applaud goes to you for declassifying documents over the ultimate week and truly getting to the information and the certainty.
thanks, Senator, for doing that. i know that our viewers is grateful.
GRAHAM: thanks.
BARTIROMO: I are looking to focus on what you declassified.
And, definitely, you've got articles in this from The long island times, the place we see Peter Strzok, FBI agent...
GRAHAM: correct.
BARTIROMO: ... marking off the articles, asserting there is completely no facts of this.
tell us in regards to the file that you simply declassified from the FBI which is based on an interview with the subsource of Christopher Steele.
GRAHAM: So, there may be two things that we declassified so the general public might be aware how corrupt Crossfire typhoon in reality was.
no 1 turned into a memo written via an intel analyst who spent three days interviewing the Russian subsource. I do not know about you, but I all the time concept the Russian subsource changed into somebody based in Russia within the bowels of the Russian govt risking their lives, making an attempt to get assistance out to the Democratic party.
The Russian subsource, we now be aware of, was on the payroll of Christopher Steele. And he also had a working relationship with the Brookings Institute. And we have realized from the memo that we declassified that the Russian subsource, who became American-based, now not Russian-based, advised Christopher Steele: here's what I actually have acquired. it's bar speak. it's rumor. it's innuendo. It is not basically legitimate.
And what did Christopher Steele do with that? He became it right into a Tom Clancy novel. He bought it to the FBI. They offered it to the FISA court to get a warrant in opposition t Carter page. And what does this memo exhibit?
Then, in January 2017, once they discovered the Russian subsource, who become within the united states, he disavowed the file as being reliable. The FBI knew it, did a 40-page memo. however the FBI endured to mislead the courtroom, getting new warrants in line with the dossier in April and June of 2017. After they knew it changed into a bunch of garbage, they endured to use it anyway.
somebody needs to go to detention center.
BARTIROMO: So, tell me in regards to the criminality, as a result of...
GRAHAM: yes.
BARTIROMO: ... if that subsource told the FBI agent, this is all bar talk...
GRAHAM: right.
BARTIROMO: ... here is all hearsay...
GRAHAM: yes.
BARTIROMO: ... why did not the FBI stop renewing warrants to undercover agent on Carter web page?
GRAHAM: that's the principal accusation that i'm trying to discover. i am doing oversight. Durham is doing a crook investigation.
here's what i will be able to inform you, that Peter Strzok new that the subsource turned into no longer legit. within the notes that we declassified the place Strzok is commenting on the February 14 big apple times article, he suggests in there that Steele doesn't have perception into the reliability of the subsource.
So, that tells me that Strzok knew in regards to the interview with the subsource in January, the place the subsource says it is all bar talk and hearsay. So, Strzok has a duty to document to the court exculpatory assistance. He has an obligation to notify his superiors that the key doc to get a warrant in opposition t Carter web page, the Russian file, is not any longer legit.
I discover it inconceivable to trust that McCabe and Comey were no longer made aware of this forty-page memo. think about it for the second. What's the chances that someone would go to the quandary of writing a 40-page memo, shredding the reliability of the Russian file, and not tell different individuals in the FBI about it? I feel there is zero possibility that happened.
And anyone that knew that the Russian dossier become unreliable and persisted to get a warrant against Carter web page in keeping with that document may still go to reformatory for defrauding the courtroom.
BARTIROMO: So, you're calling witnesses down to get interviewed in front of your committee.
GRAHAM: sure.
BARTIROMO: you have got received Sally Yates coming quickly.
GRAHAM: sure. right.
BARTIROMO: Are you going to call Jim Comey and Andrew McCabe?
GRAHAM: yes, absolutely, at the conclusion.
however I are looking to call Sally Yates. however let me tell you who I need to call for certain, is, I wish to call the person who prepared the memo. I need to call the case agent who interviewed the subsource for three days in January and ask him, oh, by the way, did you inform any one above you that the dossier is a chunk of Russian disinformation?
they may be laughing their ass off in Russia. This big apple times article that somehow the subsource has been compromised, no person in Russia is mad at this subsource who is U.S.-based, because the subsource took a bunch of Russian disinformation, sold it to Christopher Steele, who bought it to the FBI.
What happened here is that Russian disinformation turned into used by way of American legislations enforcement in weapons kind to go after a sitting president. they're laughing their ass off in Russia about this. they'd give this guy a medal.
BARTIROMO: Mm-hmm.
So, inform me about the Sally Yates interview. it really is happening on August 5.
GRAHAM: good enough. appropriate. right.
BARTIROMO: it is developing. What do you need to find out from Sally Yates?
GRAHAM: Three things. Three issues.
Ms. Yates has up to now testified that she met with President Obama and vice president Biden, I suppose it became Comey and Brennan and just a few others, to talk concerning the ongoing surveillance of general Flynn, who was the incoming country wide safety adviser.
At that assembly, she discovered for the first time -- and she or he is quantity two at the Justice branch on January the fifth, 2017 -- that the FBI become surveilling generic Flynn. What greatly surprised her probably the most is that Obama knew about it, and he or she didn't.
Now, what do I need to ask her? I want her clarify to us, how is it feasible the president of the united states is aware of about a surveillance of the incoming national security adviser, regularly occurring Flynn, and also you did not?
And did she hear vice president Biden point out no matter if or not Flynn may have violated the Logan Act? and that i are looking to beneath -- I desire her to clarify to us what variety of system is in place?
On January the 4th, the FBI agents in the container suggested shedding normal Flynn from Crossfire typhoon as a result of there changed into no there there.
So, in fact, what I want to hear from Flynn is, how might Obama comprehend and she or he did not? And did Biden mention that we should be taking a look at Flynn in terms after a Logan Act violation? If he talked about that, it is contrary to what he has been saying publicly.
BARTIROMO: well, what did they also say -- what did the FBI say to Congress?
because I remember John Brennan being interviewed...
GRAHAM: live tuned.
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BARTIROMO: ... in testimony to -- in entrance of Trey Gowdy.
GRAHAM: sure. sure.
BARTIROMO: And he spoke of to Trey Gowdy, we didn't use the file. It turned into a small part of the universal mosaic.
GRAHAM: appropriate.
BARTIROMO: What about the FBI and what it told Congress? Is mendacity to Congress a 10-12 months legal, as Trey Gowdy has mentioned on this application?
GRAHAM: So, dwell tuned.
next week, you are going to study more. now not handiest can we now understand that the FBI lied to the FISA court docket in regards to the reliability of the dossier. They advised the court that the subsource became fair and cooperative and Russian- primarily based.
The fact of the matter is that the subsource turned into American-based mostly. He changed into an worker of Christopher Steele, who became on the payroll of the Democratic birthday party. And he advised Christopher Steele, this is all a bunch of rumour.
And when the FBI understood that the file became now not legitimate, they persisted to use it. but we also now have found -- and this may come out subsequent week -- that Congress received suspicious in regards to the Russian subsource and the reliability of the Steele file and that members of Congress requested to be briefed about it.
i will be able to tell you next week what I discovered. And here is what I consider i go to be in a position to show to the public. now not handiest did the FBI lie to the courtroom in regards to the reliability of the Steele file. They additionally relied -- lied to the Congress. and that is a separate crime.
BARTIROMO: So, this is a 2d criminal -- it truly is a 2nd criminal act, then?
GRAHAM: And here's in 2018.
So, once more, I are looking to emphasize this, that the Congress received suspicious, the Intelligence Committee did, about Steele and the reliability of the file. The intelligence group did not wish to encompass the file within the intelligence evaluation offered to President Trump about the 2016 crusade as a result of they did not believe it.
So, they started asking questions at the FBI in 2018 concerning the subsource and the way legitimate this advice changed into. and i discovered the notes that the FBI used to prepare that briefing. Mr. Horowitz told us about them. I found them.
dwell tuned next week. you might be going to locate, not only did the FBI mislead the FISA court docket. They lied their ass off to the Congress.
BARTIROMO: fantastic. here is greater breaking information. we can observe your reporting subsequent week, Senator.
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BARTIROMO: actual quick, before you go, you were knee-deep on working on another package for the shutdown and the coronavirus response.
GRAHAM: sure. correct.
BARTIROMO: Are we going to peer you pass whatever thing before the Senate leaves on August 8? what is the dialog now about those unemployment benefits, that will go away on July 31?
GRAHAM: neatly, right here's the difficulty we've.
Seventy % of the americans, virtually, on unemployment are making extra unemployed than they did after they labored. We should exchange that. State benefits are attempting to exchange 50 p.c of lost wages.
What Mnuchin wants to do is have a federal advantage to take it as much as 70 %. Our intention is to offer you 70 % of the cash you misplaced by means of being employed, now not to provide you with a pay elevate in unemployment.
we now have got to fix that. we have acquired to cope with kids. we now have bought $one hundred billion during this kit to safely get children back to college. And hospitals are starting to be overrun once again by way of new admissions. So we now have got cash to help our fitness care system.
Half the Republicans are going to vote no to any phase four kit. it's only a reality. And lots of Democrats are going to insist on $three trillion, which might be way too a good deal. it might be wasted money.
i am confident that President Trump will lead us to a solution where we have funds for youngsters, jobs, and health care. We need to stimulate the economic climate. We want a part four. and i feel we will come together before August the 5th to get this performed.
BARTIROMO: All right, we can go away it there. We can be gazing.
Lindsey Graham, thanks for your leadership in all of this. We admire your time this morning, sir. thanks.
GRAHAM: thanks.
BARTIROMO: Senator Lindsey Graham becoming a member of us there.
a brief damage, and then arising, acting Secretary of place of origin protection Chad Wolf is here live on what the federal executive is doing to do to restore legislations and order across our country, with some mayors announcing they are simply not welcome.
returned in a minute.
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BARTIROMO: Welcome lower back.
Crime and vandalism besieging downtown Portland in a single day, as the metropolis enters a sixtieth straight day of commonly violent protests over the demise of George Floyd.
President Trump deployed federal officers there to fix legislation and order, facing opposition from native lawmakers who're stressful they leave.
appearing Secretary of fatherland safety Chad Wolf has been leading the federal response in Portland.
He joins me at the moment.
And, Secretary, it's first rate to have you ever this morning. thank you so plenty for joining us. And, actually, your leadership on all of here's vital.
Please clarify to us the change when it comes to what is going on in Portland vs. the response to different cities across our country where there's also crime and vandalism and in want of law and order?
CHAD WOLF, acting U.S. SECRETARY OF homeland protection: neatly, thanks for having me on this morning, Maria.
What's happening in Portland is very distinctive than some other city across our nation today. What we have in Portland is, every night, once more, between nighttime and 5:00 a.m., you've got any place from 2,000, three,000, upwards to 4,000 violent people focused on federal property, the federal courthouse there in Portland and federal legislation enforcement officers.
they're arriving each evening, using metropolis streets and metropolis parks. they are coming armed with rocks, bottles, basketball bats, vigor tools, business- grade fireworks, eliciting that violence, and focused on their violence on federal courthouse and federal law enforcement officers.
That is very different than what's occurring in Chicago -- areas like Chicago, Albuquerque, Kansas city. this is where you see ordinary criminal undertaking, street crime, what we are saying, related to gangs and drug dealers.
And, once again, President Trump and the administration, led by using the branch of Justice, is concentrated on that type of crime.
but, again, Portland is awfully different. What we see in Portland is a city, as a minimum at certain hours of the evening, absolutely out of handle. We see city leadership there has fostered an atmosphere that permits these criminals to try this throughout the nighttime, untouched, fully untouched.
it's time for Portland to join different liable cities round this nation, working with federal legislations enforcement, to tackle this violence.
simply closing nighttime, Maria, we had protests across the nation. We had some violent protests taking place in Seattle, in Oakland, in different cities. however what we saw there's, we noticed local and state, federal legislation enforcement -- working with federal legislation enforcement, addressing those concerns, without essential incidents.
We want Portland to step up to the plate, do their responsibility, and work with us to tackle violent crook undertaking happening each night.
BARTIROMO: smartly, what if they do not, Secretary?
whatever thing has obtained to supply, correct? here is going on every nighttime that Portland seems like Baghdad. and they are pushing again on officers. These individuals can go all the approach up to the fence and the perimeter and throw bricks at officers. What are you going to do about it?
WOLF: absolutely.
smartly, i will be able to say that we're working very, very intently with the department of Justice, the FBI, as well as others. and that i will say that we are going to have additional actions likely as early as this week.
We can't proceed to let law enforcement officers targeted and injured nighttime after nighttime after night.
and i simply need to say, we regularly hear from, once more, metropolis leaders and even different leaders, Oregon senators, who say there isn't loads of violence occurring, it is mainly peaceable protesting.
i would say to you, that we've over 70 arrests. we have over 188 particular person accidents. we now have acquired over a dozen instances it has been declared a rebellion that claims otherwise. here is violent, violent endeavor. we have obtained dozens of photographs, pictures, videos, some of which we launched, that say the complete opposite.
So, I think it is terribly important that americans and your viewers take into account what is going on in Portland. it is violent crime each nighttime.
And, once more, i'm asking the metropolis, the state to step up, do their job, work with federal legislations enforcement, and let's carry this to a peaceful conclusion.
BARTIROMO: sure.
WOLF: And let me simply end via announcing the department strongly supports individuals who wish to peacefully protest. You need to pastime your First amendment correct, there is no subject.
actually, that occurs in Portland daily. there isn't a incidents. there is no arrests. And we're nice. It is this violent crook endeavor that has to stop.
BARTIROMO: sure.
and you can even have two of your agents completely blind, God forbid, as a result of they have been -- they had lasers shined in their eyes.
I want to take brief spoil and come returned and discuss that, in addition to a protest deliberate correct outdoor of your condo.
reside with us. extra with Secretary Chad Wolf once we come right returned.
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BARTIROMO: Welcome returned. we're again live with acting Secretary of native land security Chad Wolf.
Secretary, we had been simply going during the condition in Portland. I wish to get to the other fundamental cities in our country and the violence occurring there.
however why can't -- before we conclude on Portland, why cannot you just arrest the management in Portland as a result of their ignoring what is really occurring on the ground?
WOLF: neatly, we fully are doing that.
So, we're working with the FBI there in Portland, with the U.S. attorney's office there in Portland, to address the leaders which are organizing this after which going after them.
We're also making arrests each evening. We made more than seven or eight arrests last evening. And we can continue to do this. We're continuing to cling these criminals responsible. If the metropolis may not, the federal executive will dangle these folks dependable.
and that i consider it's interesting. I even have commonly been asked by using a couple of metropolis officers, as well as, once again, senators, who say, simply have DHS officers dwell on federal property. if you reside on federal property, all can be excellent. We did that Friday evening, Maria, and over seven officers have been injured on federal property.
So, this has nothing to do with, you stay on federal property, after which we will peacefully protest. That is not the case.
We recognize what their aim is. Their purpose is to destroy that courthouse and injure legislations enforcement officers. we have them on video as asserting that. We be aware of what their intention is. And we're going to proceed to protect and do our job.
BARTIROMO: appropriate.
How are your officers doing, your brokers doing who're -- have lost eyesight as a result of the lasers shone at their eyes?
WOLF: yes, neatly, I admire you bringing up that.
we now have two to 3 distinctive officers. we're ready on final effects to look how a whole lot their eyesight will permanently be misplaced on account of the undertaking of these criminals. As you indicated, they're shining lasers, excessive, potent lasers into officers' eyes as they emerge from the courthouse.
So, we're taking steps, we now have taken steps to address that. And we will proceed to protect our officers at all costs.
And, again, all i want is the city of Portland to step up and do their job. These people are on city streets. they're in city parks, arming themselves each evening. And the metropolis easily does nothing about it, completely nothing.
BARTIROMO: unbelievable.
WOLF: it is irresponsible, and it is very bad.
BARTIROMO: And presently, there are plans for a protest right outside of your domestic. What are you doing? What are you able to inform us about this different protest which is in fact trying to single-handedly assault you?
WOLF: smartly, what i will be able to inform you, Maria, is, our officers in Portland each night are centered.
Their very own counsel is on the web, put obtainable via these criminals, via these anarchists. they're recognized. Their households are pressured. They go where they may be staying. The doxing is prolific. And we're making an attempt to tackle that.
And, of direction, we see them attempting to try this to myself. we are able to continue to do our job. We aren't going to be deterred by using this. this is tactic they've used for over three years, three-and-a-half years. We recognize what it's. We're prepared for it.
on the conclusion of the day, we'll do our job, we'll do our mission. The American people deserve that.
And, again, i'm going lower back to the -- most low in cost americans understand what is at play in Portland, take into account what the branch is doing, what the president is doing and what the administration is doing. and that is, we're standing up for law and order. And any person who says in any other case isn't being correct.
and i will say that the different -- the other side that desires to criticize legislations enforcement, what they do not do, they don't condemn these acts of violence in Portland. I actually have talked with a few Democratic individuals of Congress. And all however one...
BARTIROMO: correct.
WOLF: just one have asked me in regards to the health of my officers. All they are looking to do is condemn law enforcement for doing their job, and, again, very irresponsible.
BARTIROMO: Bernie Sanders would additionally like to defund the Pentagon. The Democrats are looking to cut protection spending as neatly.
And, true brief, supply us your experience of what is going on in other cities across the country. Shootings are up 50 percent in big apple. Crime, homicide, and shootings are up in Chicago.
what's going on in other cities, and the way are you coping with that? tell us about Operation LeGend.
WOLF: absolutely.
So, Operation LeGend is a department of Justice-led operation into a couple of cities. It has been on entering into Kansas metropolis. it's also taking region in Chicago, Albuquerque and a number of others.
And, once again, what we're doing is, we're surging law enforcement assets into these cities to work on federal crimes which are being committed, no matter if it is gang violence or drug-related violence.
And these are task forces that are happening every day. And, once again, federal officers are doing that along with state and native legislation enforcement officers.
So, what we're doing is, we're surging components, the department of fatherland protection, the usage of our place of origin protection investigation agents, are aiding that effort, once again, attempting to address one of the violent crook endeavor it's occurring out in these cities that has gotten absolutely out of handle.
but I need to emphasize, we're doing that with state and local partnership, as we've carried out for the previous several a long time. Nothing goes to exchange there. we're going to proceed to have that partnership with them.
however what we are trying to do is, we're making an attempt to place additional belongings into those cities, so that we will examine greater, we will wrap up these investigations quicker, and we can make more arrests.
BARTIROMO: And is there a accident that many of these cities are being run by means of Democrat officials?
I simply are looking to speak directly about policy and no matter if or not the Democrat guidelines are encouraging this. Nancy Pelosi the other day called your brokers Storm Troopers. you have obtained -- identical to you mentioned a moment ago, you've got got officers saying these are peaceful issues, and they're now not peaceable.
What do you say about all of those cities, which we're going to display on digital camera now, being run by means of Democrats?
WOLF: neatly, i'd say the comment from Speaker Pelosi that our federal legislation enforcement officers, civil legislations enforcement officers are Storm Troopers, are the Gestapo, or are thugs is fully irresponsible. or not it's unhealthy. and she should still immediately ask for forgiveness for that.
What we again see across these cities is violent crime occurring. we are able to proceed to surge components, now not most effective in Portland, but in other cities across the country.
but I do want to make a different -- a big difference, which we noted on the proper of this section. what is occurring in Portland is awfully different than any other -- any other metropolis throughout the nation. And that relationship with the federal legislation enforcement officers and those state and local law enforcement officers is awfully diverse in Portland as it is anyplace else.
So, I want to make certain that all and sundry is clear about that, and there is no confusion.
BARTIROMO: Understood.
thanks so much, Secretary. top notch to have you ever this morning. We so recognize it, appearing fatherland protection Secretary Chad Wolf.
We will be appropriate lower back with Devin Nunes are living. he is got breaking information on the Russian collusion hoax, the coup that failed.
you are going to not ever believe which prestigious Washington suppose tank he says has links to establishing the dossier -- next.
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Congressman Devin Nunes became among the many first lawmakers to question the Russian collusion hoax, as then chairman of the house Intel Committee, telling us right right here on this application three years ago that the FBI engaged in a coup to take down a sitting president.
This week, he joined me on "Mornings With Maria" over on FOX business with some breaking news on the Steele file. Watch.
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REP. DEVIN NUNES (R-CA): where we now see direct links between the Brookings Institute leadership and the creation of -- might be of the Steele dossier and the dissemination of the Steele dossier.
I consider they have actual reply -- questions that need to be answered here about, what in the world turned into the president of Brookings doing texting back and forth to Steele? Why became he accepting the file?
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BARTIROMO: becoming a member of me presently with an update is Congressman Devin Nunes. he's the rating member the apartment Intel Committee.
Congressman, it is at all times a pleasure to peer you. thanks for being right here.
NUNES: thank you.
BARTIROMO: we've this breaking news this morning, because the subsource of the dossier, Igor Danchenko, has been unmasked.
inform me about this subsource and its tie -- his ties to Brookings.
NUNES: well, thanks, Maria. Thanks for having me on.
You may be aware, a pair months in the past, i used to be for your display, and i pointed out that we have been in reality three Russians. And as Senator Graham mentioned at the beginning of the show, it finally ends up that we definitely weren't hunting for -- the third one turned into actually not a Russian in any respect. He in fact -- it seems like he lives here in the united states.
And the FBI led Congress to believe that -- and the media led Congress to consider and they led the American public to agree with that by some means Steele had this really super secret source that no person might know about.
neatly, it finally ends up that he used to work for the Brookings Institute. It looks like there changed into lots of connections to the Brookings Institute, which, for these of your viewers who do not know what here's, this is like the well known left-wing feel tank right here in our nation's capital.
So, we're investigating now, and have been. And we had these hyperlinks prior on. americans may additionally remember. The president of Brookings, back in 2016, we understand that he had given the file to a few people. We had that via testimony.
You additionally may also bear in mind that the State department was involved and there have been further dossiers that weren't the Steele dossiers, except that they mirrored the Steele dossiers. And we think there is a connection between the president of Brookings and people dossiers that got to the State department that mirrored the Steele dossiers, which, appear, all of this, what does this imply?
These -- this turned into the Clinton crusade's dossiers. It changed into the filth. It became a phony story that they offered, now not only to the American people, however they offered it and corrupted our FBI, where it appears like these dirty law enforcement officials were more than willing to take this information and present it to the FISA court.
So, here is the last element on Brookings.
BARTIROMO: Are you -- sure.
NUNES: So, here's the last element.
So, we now have now multiplied our investigation, full-blown investigation, into the Brookings Institute. And it really facilities on two considerations. One is the IRS. here is a tax-exempt corporation. they are speculated to reside out of politics. They evidently have not accomplished that. they have obstructed our investigation with propaganda for the ultimate four years.
it's typical that they have attacked our investigation for four years via this form of phony felony community of truth-checkers that they deploy.
BARTIROMO: correct.
NUNES: So, we deserve to look at their -- see if they had been worried in politics.
BARTIROMO: adequate.
NUNES: Secondly, they take...
BARTIROMO: So, the -- yes.
NUNES: yes.
Secondly, they take -- they additionally take overseas money from international nations and overseas governments. And we deserve to be aware of what international governments were concerned in this, because had been they appearing on behalf of a international power?
everyone questioned for all this time, you be aware of, the Trump crusade and Republicans have been involved with Russians. well, who became the Brookings Institute -- who had been their international donors? And are they doing all of this now not just to support the Democratic birthday celebration, but also any foreign government?
BARTIROMO: neatly, what tells me -- what this all tells me, including the subsource printed, is that there turned into certainly collusion during this nation, nonetheless it become collusion with Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.
Is that a good remark?
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NUNES: well, yes.
And it additionally simply goes to display you that this became some ill fable that became made up by way of the Clinton campaign and their operatives. And consider of this. You had people within the media -- be aware this entire aspect about prostitutes and Pee tapes in Moscow?
These fools had been running around all over Europe and Moscow, the leading institutions, these supposedly main newshounds, however no person calls them out on that. And the entire factor was like some ailing myth made up by means of the Clinton crusade.
BARTIROMO: neatly, a lot of them definitely received Pulitzer Prizes for his or her reporting.
NUNES: this is right.
BARTIROMO: I need to ask you about Robert Mueller, as a result of these gadgets that have been declassified clearly indicate that the FBI knew that the dossier changed into fake, that the dossier become rumour and bar speak.
How come Mueller did not unearth these things? I mean, let's watch Robert Mueller when he testified in entrance of Congress to hearken to what he spoke of about issues like Fusion GPS.
Roll the clip.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: in case you talk in regards to the firm that produced the Steele reporting, the identify of the enterprise that produced that was Fusion GPS. Is that proper?
ROBERT MUELLER, RUSSIA PROBE particular suggestions: i'm no longer standard with that.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: smartly, let me simply support you. It became. or not it's not a trick question or anything. It was Fusion GPS.
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BARTIROMO: "i am no longer universal with it."
NUNES: sure.
BARTIROMO: you have got unearthed all of those things, Lindsey Graham declassifying the proof that the FBI knew the dossier turned into garbage, and he had no recollection? I do not be aware. the place changed into Mueller in all of this, Congressman?
NUNES: well, seem to be, I feel the query is, is, does Mueller understand the place Mueller is, ok?
This turned into someone who has put up as an avatar to give credibility to this investigation that became phony from the beginning, adequate? So i'm not speakme about simply in 2016. i am speaking about the day that Mueller walks within the door.
i am now not certain he knows what the hell's happening. And, certainly, a pair years later, when he testifies earlier than Congress, to not comprehend who Fusion GPS is became stunning.
And, seem, the Democratic birthday party -- or not it's very bizarre. For a celebration that looks to be towards white individuals and always speaking about racism, they bound want to, like, prop up these avatar historical white dudes, the place -- they've one working for president at this time who's hiding in his basement, who won't answer questions.
What changed into his involvement? Their presidential candidate supposedly went after him, become the one who concocted this conception to make use of the Logan Act to examine the Trump crusade, and the incoming president, incidentally.
BARTIROMO: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
well, you have made 14 criminal referrals, with a 15th pending. we are waiting on John Durham to investigate that. We're going to hear more from John Durham, I anticipate.
Let me movement on, real brief, in regards to the know-how CEOs testifying, no longer in entrance of your committee, but they are going to be testifying this week within the condominium in front of the Judiciary Committee.
you've got said conservative censorship is probably the most crucial concern forward of the 2020 election. What do you are looking to hear from people just like the head of Twitter, the top of Google, et cetera, once they testify this week?
NUNES: neatly, look, Congress gave these guys particular powers, so that they could create corporations, so that individuals may go and use the web.
It turned into presupposed to be an open public rectangular. think of it as a public square, where everyone, so long as they're now not -- as long as they're following the law, they could go out there and state their case, and take part in that public square.
What's took place here is, is that facebook and Google and Twitter are partisan hacks for the Democratic party and the left. And so what's occurring is, believe of that -- go again to that public square instance.
they are finding out who gets to enter the public square. So, the good issue might be is that we're basically going to have the Parler CEO who's going to testify. and you'll follow me at Parler @DevinNunes at Parler.
BARTIROMO: yes.
NUNES: And he's been for your show, Maria.
they have basically -- they are in reality...
BARTIROMO: sure.
NUNES: they have got that city square. and they're letting all americans go there and categorical their views.
BARTIROMO: good enough. We acquired to soar.
Congressman, or not it's first rate to look you. thanks so a whole lot, Devin Nunes.
NUNES: My pleasure.
BARTIROMO: We may be right lower back.
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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo this week taking a hard line as soon as once again on Beijing, accusing the chinese language Communist birthday party of tyrannizing its individuals, while talking at a Richard Nixon Library adventure in California on Thursday, Pompeo's rebuke coming just hours after two chinese language diplomats have been caught attempting to steal coronavirus vaccine analysis in Houston.
joining me at the moment is Ray Dalio. he is the co-chief funding officer and the co-investment officer of Bridgewater friends and founder.
it's extremely good to peer you once once more, Ray. Thanks very lots for becoming a member of me as soon as once more this week.
RAY DALIO, CO-CHIEF funding OFFICER/CO-CHAIRMAN, BRIDGEWATER associates: top notch to be right here. BARTIROMO: So, I need to talk in regards to the economic system and your recommendations on the greenback and all of the stimulus that we now have viewed in the Federal Reserve, Ray.
however, first, I even have obtained to get your reaction to all that we're seeing popping out of China. i know that you're a worldwide investor. and also you search for growth internationally.
Would you still wish to put money into China, given what we now have discovered in regards to the Communist party?
DALIO: I think there are three things, three massive things going on, and they operate collectively. and those are the vital ones.
the first is where we're in the debt cycle, the printing of funds, and that. The second is how we are with every different, that we're having an ideological civil conflict that, in case you mix that with an economic downturn, wherein there's the printing of money and the advent of money out of thin air, is an argument.
and then you have the rising energy of China challenging the current vigor. those three issues, the remaining time they happened was within the 1930-to-'forty five length. I believe you ought to see them together. So, it's the place we're now in.
when it comes to China, we will -- we are in a conflict with China. that you can name it a conflict, just like the Thirties, so that there's a -- there is a trade warfare, there's a know-how battle, there is a geopolitical conflict, and there can be a capital battle. And so it is the truth.
Now regarding coverage, it truly is for governments to set. but the problem is to set it smartly, as a result of, if you say, by way of law, do not put money into China, and even probably withholding the price of bonds that the U.S. owes charge on in China, this stuff are chances, and they have massive implications, corresponding to for the cost of the dollar, as a result of buyers, free market traders, aren't used to having those issues dictated by means of the executive.
So, these are complicated questions that ought to be well-addressed at present.
BARTIROMO: however would the -- would the news of a million Uyghurs being locked up in reeducation camps, the ignoring of the guideline of legislations with the aid of stealing highbrow property, the overreach in Hong Kong, breaking promises there, militarizing the South China Sea, do any of those issues come into focal point when finding out to put money into China?
DALIO: I believe that we, as american citizens, have got to pick out what's most critical to us. And it becomes a problem.
for instance, from the chinese language standpoint, they believe it truly is a local of sovereignty and that those inner concerns are be to dealt with by way of them, and we must have -- similar to they would not deal in our inside issues.
These are questions that individuals don't come to a decision. people must make a decision...
BARTIROMO: ok.
DALIO: ... if they're moral, if they're working in methods that are in line with their beliefs. it's a private decision that you just want to do.
BARTIROMO: it's precisely appropriate.
DALIO: however the simplest -- however, on the conclusion of the day...
BARTIROMO: that is what i am announcing, sure.
DALIO: on the end of the day, it'll...
BARTIROMO: grasp on, Ray. we will take -- we will -- yes.
DALIO: at the conclusion of the day...
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BARTIROMO: we will take a destroy after which come again to that once we come correct again.
reside with us, Ray Dalio.
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BARTIROMO: we're back with Bridgewater chief investment officer Ray Dalio.
And, Ray, a second in the past, you outlined the expertise for a capital warfare. I are looking to ask you concerning the economic system and what your recommendations are about all of the stimulus being thrown on the economy, given this shutdown.
Do you worry in regards to the impact to the reserve currency, the greenback, Ray?
DALIO: sure, I -- we are handiest going to be a success if we do issues in an outstanding manner, correct?
So, the issues I be concerned in regards to the most are the soundness of our funds. You cannot continue to run deficits, sell debt, or print money, as opposed to be productive and preserve that over a length of time. And that relates to the funds and what's now occurring.
And the 2nd is the working collectively. I look at heritage. And, as I say, the '30-to-'45 length is educational, as a result of, inside each nation, there had been conflicts about -- like our conflicts. 4 democracies chose to be dictatorships on account of the sickness of how people are fighting with every other, instead of working together.
If we do not work collectively to do the sound issues, to be productive, to earn more than we spend, to construct our foreign money, the balance of our foreign money, and build a very good balance sheet, we are going to decline.
we are declining because of those things. And so it's in reality in those fundamentals that are probably the most crucial things that we contend with. we are our personal worst enemy.
BARTIROMO: yes.
DALIO: So, how we contend with each different soundly and productively, in a means...
BARTIROMO: yes.
DALIO: ... that almost all americans in the nation believe is reasonable, is going to determine our future.
BARTIROMO: Ray -- Ray, thank you.
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